Curse

The Hand Of Death · Jun 16, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas

No. I chose for my TITLE. NOT the alliance. Now all these people are wanting both the title AND amber while I only get 1 of those. How is that fair?

It's fair because now you can get the title through amber and jade and all the people who spent it on amber and jade don't get that benefit for all the faction they did use toward that.

Sax Dakota · Jun 16, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

/signed

The title says faction transferred. If some of us transferred jadeite/amber and didnt get faction, Now they are letting us do it toward the title? Why not make it retroactive.

VitisVinifera · Jun 16, 2007, 08:22 PM // 20:22

/signed

simply makes sense. I just hope the info on how many jades/ambers I've turned in for is stored somewhere

Revan Soulbreaker · Jun 16, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27

do it

/signed

Niila · Jun 16, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

/signed

simply makes sense. I just hope the info on how many jades/ambers I've turned in for is stored somewhere

Hovering your mouse over the kurzick faction bar shows the total amount of faction you have earned. As for this topic, there's much bigger one in riverside inn about this exact same matter.

Bazompora · Jun 16, 2007, 09:13 PM // 21:13

/signed
because Arenanet should stop discriminating veterans when it comes to titles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas

No. I chose for my TITLE. NOT the alliance. Now all these people are wanting both the title AND amber while I only get 1 of those. How is that fair?

It's fair, because your alliance did benefit from you persuing the title. By following your claim, your alliance would have to give back the factions you contributed.

Yanman.be · Jun 16, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39

/signed, you could even raise the cap again.

Voltar · Jun 16, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

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Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas

No. I chose for my TITLE. NOT the alliance. Now all these people are wanting both the title AND amber while I only get 1 of those. How is that fair?

although i'm big on the "/sign" side of it, that's a good point. i personally decided after the first rank not to bother beyond that (since it seemed way more practical to sell jade than to own a town or whatnot) however that would do the same thing (well...kinda) as a previous post suggesting to make the survivor title start over when you die.

even though i'm thinking, "i would rather have all my 400k+ faction earned towards the title," i'm feeling that same vibe as if they negated the 2 unsuccessful attempts at survivor i made (buying armor, runes, cap sigs, time, blah blah blah) before i finally finished it (yesterday...someone hook me up a, "grats!").

conditional /sign if they also add something in for the people that put time into the title.

the title isn't comparable to jade sold...maybe unless you had control of the house or cavalon and "farmed noobs"* ferrying to urgoz or the deep.

*am i a dweeb for using the term, "farm noobs," to describe pro running and ferrying? maybe i am for using the word, "dweeb".

Kool Pajamas · Jun 16, 2007, 11:57 PM // 23:57

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Originally Posted by Bazompora

/signed
because Arenanet should stop discriminating veterans when it comes to titles.
It's fair, because your alliance did benefit from you persuing the title. By following your claim, your alliance would have to give back the factions you contributed.

NO. They did NOT. NONE of my alliances EVER came CLOSE to getting a town. They did NOT benefit AT ALL.

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Originally Posted by The Hand Of Death

It's fair because now you can get the title through amber and jade and all the people who spent it on amber and jade don't get that benefit for all the faction they did use toward that.

Dude you are talking about 2 different things in one sentence. That didnt even make sense.

Eldin · Jun 16, 2007, 11:59 PM // 23:59

/signed

Many titles are like that. For example, the Drunkard title! I once spent about half an hour drunk, though that was aeons before they implemented it.

Swift The Cunning · Jun 17, 2007, 12:04 AM // 00:04

/signed

same reasons as above. Please Anet. Head our call!

Takeko Nakano · Jun 17, 2007, 12:11 AM // 00:11

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Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas

/NOT signed

I spent my faction towards the title instead of turning in for amber/jade. While you would be getting the points I'd be losing out on amber/jade. If they did this I would expect a stack of amber and jade in my inventory.....

So what you mean is you're sore they've brought it in for rare materials now, but because you're so selfish you want to screw over those of us who didn't farm for our alliance out of spite?

Jonn Shadowstalker · Jun 17, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37

/signed.

For all the reasons state above.

=DNC=Trucker · Jun 17, 2007, 01:17 AM // 01:17

/signed

I'll probably never reach lvl 3 if I played the game for 10 more years!

Evilsod · Jun 17, 2007, 01:25 AM // 01:25

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Originally Posted by Fr_3_aK

Anet LISTEN TO US GAMERS

We dont want to grind all over again for something we've already technically earned.

PVP for PVE skills is stupid!

Its lucky for us that you can PvE to get the PvE skills... you know... by killing enemies under the Luxon/Kurzick Holy Blessing.

Tis very easy... helped out with a few vanquishes earlier, netted around 3.5k-4.5k faction per area. Plus theres a very quick run i was looking at earlier around the 5/6 bosses in Eternal Grove explorable that nets about 1-1.5k faction in ~10 minutes.

Not the best, but if you compare them to the rate of gain from an AB its pretty favourable. Specially when you take into account the extremely tedious waiting times and the fact you don't always win.

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No. I chose for my TITLE. NOT the alliance. Now all these people are wanting both the title AND amber while I only get 1 of those. How is that fair?

One word: Tough.

You lost out on... whats the price of Amber these days? About 250 each? Big whoop. If you want to bitch so much i wouldn't exactly miss my amber if i had to trade it back in to get credit, i have about 280 of it that i've never used.

Hyper.nl · Jun 17, 2007, 02:13 AM // 02:13

/signed.

Same here, got a lot of Amber in the past, and it would be fair to get it counted for the title, because the new amber purchases also do.

darkk wound · Jun 17, 2007, 04:51 AM // 04:51

/not signed to raise the cap on the title is ridiculous 10 mill is reasonable enough just leave it at that.

i agree with evilsod, its tough the update has been done imo you people shouldnt be given the faction towards the title because you had a choice amber or title you chose amber so you lost out now you want the title because of the update dream on.

your probably thinking oh what does he know ? well i have 5.5 mill donated to kurzicks and i dont care about getting refunded for amber an whatnot i chose to get the title just like you guys chose to get amber LIVE WITH IT

bilateralrope · Jun 17, 2007, 05:37 AM // 05:37

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Originally Posted by darkk wound

/not signed to raise the cap on the title is ridiculous 10 mill is reasonable enough just leave it at that.

i agree with evilsod, its tough the update has been done imo you people shouldnt be given the faction towards the title because you had a choice amber or title you chose amber so you lost out now you want the title because of the update dream on.

your probably thinking oh what does he know ? well i have 5.5 mill donated to kurzicks and i dont care about getting refunded for amber an whatnot i chose to get the title just like you guys chose to get amber LIVE WITH IT

Ok, do you actually believe that if people knew that the title would give actual benefits that they would chose the amber/jade ?

If I had known it was coming, I know I'd of gone for the title instead of the amber. But since I didn't know that, my choices were either some gold or a title that does nothing as I'm not in a guild dedicated to holding a town.

So people are divided into three groups:
- The people holding towns
- The people who wanted one or both titles
- The people who enjoyed earning the faction, but didn't care about the title and weren't in an alliance that had any hope of holding a town (eg many smaller guilds).

But ANET changed the rules so that people in the last group were screwed over even if they had put in more work than the people in the other groups.

So if your wanting people to pay back the gold they got from amber/jade thats fine. As long as people also pay back the gold they earned from elite mission ferries and from reselling stuff from discount merchants.

Thom Bangalter · Jun 17, 2007, 06:13 AM // 06:13

I somehow doubt the game kept track of this.

Masseur · Jun 17, 2007, 06:56 AM // 06:56

If they do this then I want to be able to go back and buy Divine Aura and I don't care much about faction, etc...